Sarkas2: Kugan? Which Kugan? Samy Vellu got son name Kugan ka?
Sarkas1: No la, that suspected car-thief who died in police custody?
Sarkas2: Hmmm, yes, yes, oh his name Kugan ka? So what, what's so important?
Sarkas1: They all making a lot of noise about his death la. They say he was tortured to death la.
Sarkas2: This is the problem with us Malaysians la, when some one die in police lockup they are quick to blame the police. What did the police say he die of?
Sarkas1: They say it was due to fluid in the lungs.
Sarkas2: Sure la, this kind of common thief where got sleep at night, they all merayau and ronda everywhere at night so surely to get the embun la. That one also they all cannot see ka? So quick to blame the police one.
Sarkas1: Yes la, but when his family burst into the morgue they took pictures of his body, got wound marks all over la.
Sarkas2: Yes la, when they all do the autopsy sometimes the body fall or the family did it themselves just to make stories.
Sarkas1: I don't think so la. I think something is wrong la.
Sarkas2: You also just like them la. Our law enforcement people are very professional la, they don't do such things la. I know la. This is Malaysia, we are very fair la.
Sarkas1: The second autopsy report stated that he could have drowned to death la.
Sarkas2: Yes la, when there is fluid in the lungs you drown la, simple what?
Sarkas1: But many people outside there say that there is foul play what?
Sarkas2: They all surely opposition people la. You know la our opposition people always want to find fault with the government one.
Sarkas3: Hoi what are you all talking about?
Sarkas2: This fellow here la, he think that Sundram fellow's death is because of police brutality.
Sarkas3: Sundram? Where got Sundram, Kugan la.
Sarkas2: Ha, Kugan, alaah, not important la, Sundram or Kugan or Samy, he is a car thief la. Our people ha, their head screw up one la, a thief like that also they want to defend ka?
Sarkas3:Talking about this ha, you know or not about one of our people, that youth wing division head you met last week? Ha, that one, he made a report that the anti corruption people tortured him during interrogation la.
Sarkas2: What? They torture him? Alamak, he is my good friend la. You sure ka?
sarkas3: Here I got a copy of the report.
Sarkas2: Where, where? Celaka punya anti corruption people, who they think they are? I tell you ah, our law enforcement people are too much la. I know they like to torture people one. Bloody basketball they all. Why keep quiet? We all must demonstrate la like this. We must condemn this act. they all same la, BPR, Police, Immigration and that RELA also same la.
Sarkas1: Just now in Kugan's case, you said, our law enforcers are professional?
SarKas2: This one different, this one our people, a leader somemore. Kugan is a thief.
Sarkas1: Not proven yet what. Even if he is a thief I don't think he desreved to be tortured to death la. Even if he is a thief, he steals only from a few people la but that friend of yours is also a thief what, and he steals from all the people.
Sarkas2: What do you mean he is a thief?
Sarkas1: You tell me one division leader who doesn't steal the people's money.